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RU[AGA]SZ[19]KM[7.50]TM[7200]OT[5x30 byo-yomi]
GN[Open Round 6 Board 1 - Yongfei Ge 7d (w) vs Michael (ZhaoNian) Chen 7d (b)]PW[Yongfei Ge]PB[Michael (ZhaoNian) Chen]WR[7d]BR[7d]DT[2011-08-06]EV[2011 US Open]RO[6]PC[The KGS Go Server at http://www.gokgs.com/]US[Dennis Wheeler]C[USGO1 [-\]: Welcome to the AGA E-Journal's live coverage of the 2011 US Open taking place at the US Go Congress in Santa Barbara, CA.  This is round 6, board 1.  I'm Dennis Wheeler, your game recorder this morning.
USGO1 [-\]: 2011 US Open pairings can be found online at http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/102 .
USGO1 [-\]: The players are all in their seats and the morning announcements are being made
USGO1 [-\]: Michael is not in the room yet
USGO1 [-\]: The TDs are assisting some of the players with setting their clocks
Balanced [2k\]: hi USGO
Balanced [2k\]: sup?
truc [?\]: Hi
Gearloose [5k\]: hello
Balanced [2k\]: michael is in the room already?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei asks some of the other kids about Michael, they quip that he's probably still sleeping
Hernee [2d\]: Go zchen!
KGSisKGS: Yea Zchen! Got your support from KGS ^^
WuHoUnited [1k\]: zchen? this should be a crazy game
kostuek [3k\]: who is zchen? w?
KGSisKGS: b
GodofGo [6d\]: b
kostuek [3k\]: oh, yeah
Nost: kinda curious, how old are the players?
KGSisKGS: zchen is college age yes?
sibse [3d?\]: Hello.
asdsdddsd: any stream link?
baltimore [3k\]: the stream link is always the same
baltimore [3k\]: eurogotv.com
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Yongfei!!!
USGO1 [-\]: Both players from board 6 are missing... I think they went to get Michael
KGSisKGS: lol :P
alrobin [8k\]: Go, Yongfei!
WuHoUnited [1k\]: how do they decide the winner if there are going to be so many people tied for first?
buzzsaw [8k\]: I think the results of their games with others come into play
baltimore [3k\]: there wont be so many peopel tied for first
USGO1 [-\]: Michael arrives and bows apologetically
Hernee [2d\]: SOS and SOSOS can be used as tiebreakers
WuHoUnited [1k\]: but comparing to the people you played is a lousy way to tiebreak
ikewa [9k\]: and where are they gone?
USGO1 [-\]: but then leaves to get some coffee, they've started their clock
Keanureave [8k\]: starting soon?
]RE[B+5.50]
;B[pd]
;W[dp]C[KGSisKGS: let it be a good game :D
]
;B[pq]
;W[dc]C[Hernee [2d\]: I once tied for the first place with someone in a tournament. We checked SOS; we both had the same, and then SOSOS, we both had the same. Next tiebreaker they had in store was a coin :D
Mongoose11 [8k\]: SOS?
]
;B[de]
;W[dh]C[Tictactoe [-\]: sum opponent score
baltimore [3k\]: There are way more tiebreaks than that, nad there are enough roudns to get a good spread
ShapeMaker [4k\]: sosos = sum of sos?
simplet [3d\]: sodos *
ShapeMaker [4k\]: right... sodos makes more sense :)
Tictactoe [-\]: sum of defeated opp score
USGO1 [-\]: Michael steps away again
sanniti [4k\]: players dont' look very friendlys
Tictactoe [-\]: however sosos also exists weight of their combined resistance
WuHoUnited [1k\]: it just doesn't seem right that somebody could win every game and have no chance of winning tournament
Practise [2k\]: Can of worms...
baltimore [3k\]: that won't happen
Hernee [2d\]: sosos, actually. sodos is strongly recommended against as a tiebreak
baltimore [3k\]: the software would pair them with another person who was doing well
Practise [2k\]: What variation can be considered normal here?
baltimore [3k\]: WuHoUnited, if that happenedto you in a tournament, then the tournament director did not do hisorher job
Tictactoe [-\]: g16
Hernee [2d\]: G16 seems weird. So far away
sanniti [4k\]: g16 is joseki I think
Tictactoe [-\]: sorry i aminsane
blueyo [10k\]: e17
WuHoUnited [1k\]: baltimore, i was told this is the last round and it appears there are 15 people currently tied for first...
Tictactoe [-\]: e17 bad move reinforcing op to much
compendium [?\]: b is too strong at psychological warfare
Hernee [2d\]: I usually play E17 when this situation comes up
Tictactoe [-\]: then you lose
ShapeMaker [4k\]: Is there live translation?
baltimore [3k\]: B defeated W in 2006 to take the NAIM tournament
kostuek [3k\]: play e14 instead to get 3d
Illyria [?\]: there aren't 15 people tied for first.  There's a band system to determine place, but the crosstab doesn't show it.
baltimore [3k\]: ... after a missed atari
baltimore [3k\]: all those players are of different strengths in different bands
Tictactoe [-\]: shicho to corner q3 is good for black so g16 works best in combine with q16
sanniti [4k\]: USGO1 looks alone inthe table
Practise [2k\]: Is this because white's direction looks strange with respect to D4 after G16 normal variation?
slinfolo [7k\]: is there any timelimit in these games?
Tictactoe [-\]: i hope there is else i might die here
Practise [2k\]: Wait, I am confused
blueyo [10k\]: a he is back
Ananda [2k\]: ok coffe is here
USGO1 [-\]: Michael returns finally with a cup full of tortilla chips
Phelan [5k?\]: lulz
baltimore [3k\]: we started with 50 giant bags of totilla chips and 15 gallons of salsa
Ananda [2k\]: b thinks he is watching a movie?
Arka [8k\]: anyways sounds like a great idea
]
;B[fe]
;W[fc]
;B[cc]
;W[cb]
;B[he]C[Tictactoe [-\]: cautious variation
]
;W[cm]C[Jazzman [1k\]: there is livestream: http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
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;B[cd]
;W[eb]C[Tictactoe [-\]: wave to the camera dennis, we see you, thx for the lovely work
]
;B[ic]
;W[po]
;B[pl]C[blueyo [10k\]: yea 
Tictactoe [-\]: ah same pattern
Tictactoe [-\]: n4
verydrunk [-\]: Someone called me an Ass...i corrected them told them I was assiduous
verydrunk [-\]: totally wrong window for that
poirette [2d\]: mirror go? :)
Tictactoe [-\]: well your name say it all
USGO1 [-\]: Michael steps away again... trying to eat his chip as quietly as he can
]
;W[gf]C[asdsdddsd: is that some kind of tactic that b is always leaving the table?
Arka [8k\]: hope they play another variaton round q5
Practise [2k\]: I think people's habits are just different...
Ananda [2k\]: magic chips
poirette [2d\]: they will
poirette [2d\]: h14 ladder breaker
Tictactoe [-\]: yes white is aiming at n4 so he first plays this nozoki to get his shicho working
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei sits back in his chair nervously bouncing his legs (as he usually does)
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;B[ge]C[Arka [8k\]: uh not even see the ladder O.o
chrono3450 [4d\]: n4 now
]
;W[mp]C[Practise [2k\]: tricky variation ladder
Tictactoe [-\]: as foretold
chrono3450 [4d\]: w will choose the r2 var due to g14 being a ladder breaker
]
;B[oo]
;W[on]
;B[no]
;W[pp]
;B[nq]
;W[qq]C[bisquit [3k\]: i dont see the ladder thing either, can you give me the seq pls?
Tictactoe [-\]: yes chrono he might since his ladder is godd now isn't it
chrono3450 [4d\]: b can do q2
chrono3450 [4d\]: to avoid the ladder breaker var
]
;B[oq]
;W[nn]C[Arka [8k\]: q 2 now?
chrono3450 [4d\]: no
Arka [8k\]: ok now n5 or?
kairos [-\]: n5
chrono3450 [4d\]: q2 instead of p3, but now too late
kaly [2k\]: it's about a complicate ladder after black cuts at q6, I think.
Arka [8k\]: ah ok
poirette [2d\]: what is b thinking about?
chrono3450 [4d\]: without a ladder breaker for B as compensation, this will favor W
RubberDuck [?\]: nothing wrong with p5 at o5 to avoid ladder line
verydrunk [-\]: food poitrette!
poirette [2d\]: :)
Tictactoe [-\]: he seems distracted by someone passing behind the fenceline
USGO1 [-\]: Today will be a restless day, as its been a long week and the players are tired
ILoveHer [2d\]: Ah so that must be it.
verydrunk [-\]: America how does it feel to be AA+ credit rating? U mad?
USGO1 [-\]: Many players getting up from their games quite frequently
]
;B[mo]C[Tictactoe [-\]: n5 r2 q6 q7 r6 r7 s5 r5 s6 s7 s4 r4 p7 
USGO1 [-\]: both players are away from the table now
shaguaa: r7
Jazzman [1k\]: then wave to the camera :)
slinfolo [7k\]: now's your chance!
zakatan [3k\]: say hi usgo :D
USGO1 [-\]: There's a large floor goban setup at the front of the room... Michael goes over their to sit in the big chair and closes his eyes
]
;W[qr]
;B[pn]
;W[pm]
;B[qn]
;W[qm]
;B[ro]
;W[qo]
;B[rn]
;W[rm]C[Tictactoe [-\]: as foretold
]
;B[rp]
;W[qp]
;B[om]
;W[rk]
;B[qk]
;W[rl]C[Tictactoe [-\]: so now we see a shicho right?
]
;B[cq]C[pablo1 [6k\]: shicho?
Brilliant [5k\]: If Zchen wins this one, who wins the tournament?
Tictactoe [-\]: sensei.xmap.net
Tictactoe [-\]: -a
zakatan [3k\]: who is zchen?
USGO1 [-\]: the quick action stops as Yongfei leans in over the board for a closer look
Brilliant [5k\]: Zhaonian Chen
]
;W[dq]C[zakatan [3k\]: always thought he was in china
compendium [?\]: yongfei is very likely to win regardless of the outcome of this game
]
;B[cp]
;W[co]
;B[bo]
;W[bn]
;B[do]
;W[cn]
;B[dr]
;W[er]
;B[cr]
;W[fq]
;B[eo]C[baltimore [3k\]: Ah, the downside of these style tournaments
USGO1 [-\]: Both players almost putting down their stones without waiting for the other
]
;W[fp]C[Tictactoe [-\]: b4 might kil black in the corner...why can't white ply there?
USGO1 [-\]: and Michael steps away again
truc [?\]: if w b4, b f4, etc?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei checks the clocks and steps away also
hockey [2d\]: I am not afraid of you nyanjilla
Tictactoe [-\]: yes f4 first is easy, but all the rest
]
;B[bp]C[SnC [2k\]: w better
truc [?\]: i dunno, but there's a reason it's called joseki
Arka [8k\]: really arround c4 joseki?
Tictactoe [-\]: joseki don't exist, knowing why something fails makes your moves better
]
;W[jp]C[SSBMeta [11k\]: who won the mingjiu zchen game last night?
eurogotv [-\]: hi
Nation [4k\]: hi
jawbreaker [1d\]: hi
baltimore [3k\]: Mingjiu won
Tictactoe [-\]: harry to roads are complety ful of traffic-jam today
uttuzi: ho
USGO1 [-\]: Michael lost to Minjiu Jiang 7p in last night's Masters finals
Nation [4k\]: hrm
Tictactoe [-\]: so black played three joseki and hold a lost position
eurogotv [-\]: hi!
poirette [2d\]: stressfull for w to still have to consider o6 ladders
Ananda [2k\]: s6 is conpensation for the stress
compendium [?\]: hard to understand b's plan
eurogotv [-\]: live TV broadcast of this game on http://eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US (no ads in this stream)
Tictactoe [-\]: black wil play p8 soon and geta ..or get s10 to be his sente
compendium [?\]: k5
]
;B[hp]C[bugzhunter [1k\]: what's time limit in this tournament?
poirette [2d\]: lots of moves around l4 are ladder breakers
Tictactoe [-\]: see 120 above
USGO1 [-\]: In the US Open, each player has 2 hours and 5/30s
Practise [2k\]: E5 creates a surprisingly volatile position, I feel.
Ananda [2k\]: h3 ?
kostuek [3k\]: g5 i like
]
;W[nm]C[Brilliant [5k\]: Now b just needs to be lee sedol.
Ananda [2k\]: to big to ignore
Ananda [2k\]: too*
]
;B[dk]
;W[em]
;B[fn]C[thiMan [2k?\]: i dont think he ignored. maybe he read 50 moves ahead and its somehow connected :)
]
;W[hq]
;B[fm]
;W[el]C[poirette [2d\]: i prefer w here
poirette [2d\]: hard to see what b can do
thiMan [2k?\]: d9 in danger...
hockey [2d\]: why did I pay to see these 2 amateurs play?
Ananda [2k\]: is this tournament  open to pros?
np100 [8k\]: pay?
hockey [2d\]: ring seat tickets
]
;B[iq]
;W[ip]
;B[hr]C[yoon [5k\]: you have to pay to go to congress?
]
;W[gq]
;B[jq]C[BobWhoosta [1k\]: Has Yongfei gotten black in this tournament?
baltimore [3k\]: pros have played and lost already in this tournament
USGO1 [-\]: http://www.usgo.org/tournaments/crosstab/band-matrix/102
slinfolo [7k\]: is there any price money in a this?
CardCaptor [1k\]: For the new Dota 2 tournament? 1 million
thiMan [2k?\]: where is this tournament happaning?
kostuek [3k\]: alaska
slinfolo [7k\]: i thought the big cash was in LoL
CardCaptor [1k\]: not anymore
power [3k\]: l4 sente
hockey [2d\]: those are amateur professionals
hockey [2d\]: not real professionals like park
thiMan [2k?\]: l2 kills?
CardCaptor [1k\]: what and about who are u talking about?
CardCaptor [1k\]: who's park haha
USGO1 [-\]: The 2011 US Go Congress is in Santa Barabra, California where its been sunny and temprate all week
USGO1 [-\]: This morning its overcast and cool
]
;W[ho]
;B[kp]C[Ananda [2k\]: usgo whats the prize for the winner?
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Wow, I would have thought L4 was a must.
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Guess my thinking and strong thinking have a lot to disagree on.
CardCaptor [1k\]: white probably more interested in sealing in the bottom maybe
Ananda [2k\]: p8 
CardCaptor [1k\]: eh?
CardCaptor [1k\]: oh
kostuek [3k\]: h8
USGO1 [-\]: USGO1 is unaware of any cash prizes for the US Open, but top finishers are awarded points earn toward representing the US in the WAGC
]
;W[ko]
;B[kq]
;W[hl]
;B[ol]C[Joa [2k\]: look, its that simple
Ananda [2k\]: i see, thx
]
;W[nl]C[Juan03 [8k\]: whats the WAGC?
thiMan [2k?\]: nice kostuek
aertan [3k\]: do any of them play on kgs?
]
;B[nk]
;W[mk]
;B[nj]C[kostuek [3k\]: only luck^^
princezuko [-\]: world amateur go championships
thiMan [2k?\]: m7?
GreedKills [1k\]: r17
]
;W[mj]
;B[jo]
;W[io]
;B[ml]C[sameasyou [3d\]: olala///w crushed
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei starts whispering something in Chinese
sameasyou [3d\]: yup...resign
USGO1 [-\]: Michael smiles and nods
kostuek [3k\]: he talk to sai
Baytovn [6k\]: it has been interesting to see how Yongfei responds in-play to each of his opponent's styles
Joa [2k\]: hey, USGO, ca nu wave to the cam pls?
AndrewTao [6d\]: OVER
hockey [2d\]: who is park he asks
hockey [2d\]: hahaha
hockey [2d\]: not even knowing top go players of korea
poirette [2d\]: so rare to have such a short game !
zakatan [3k\]: how old is zchen?
workforce [2d\]: not the shortest ever though
Ananda [2k\]: not over yet
ec1 [2d?\]: losing these 4 w stones looks huge
poirette [2d\]: w must regret n10 a lot
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei tsks several times, and mutters some more
GreedKills [1k\]: it's decisive
workforce [2d\]: at this level it is
]
;W[mm]
;B[ll]
;W[lm]C[poirette [2d\]: l7
]
;B[km]
;W[kl]C[Practise [2k\]: I can't make this work as black :(
waretsuyla [3k\]: Did Zchen beat the 7p yesterday?
]
;B[lk]C[poirette [2d\]: even no?
ILoveHer [2d\]: No.
]
;W[ln]C[poirette [2d\]: now
Javaness [3d\]: feels like Black is flying blind on a rocket cycle
aertan [3k\]: why is this over?
compendium [?\]: probably everyone missed this 
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei whispers to himself again
Javaness [3d\]: what is he whispering?
Practise [2k\]: Secrets.
aertan [3k\]: nihao
Javaness [3d\]: lean closer so you can hear please
honku [2d\]: i here, he there, i there....
GreedKills [1k\]: lean closer so you can understand chinese :/
USGO1 [-\]: USGO1 can hear it, but its in Chinese
Ananda [2k\]: telling sai he wants to play
]
;B[mi]C[waretsuyla [3k\]: lol
Javaness [3d\]: just invent a translation then
Bogin [-\]: xD
sameasyou [3d\]: I like the way USGO only talks about himself in the third person
sameasyou [3d\]: sorry...sameasyou likes that
Javaness [3d\]: USGO1 has probably read Mastering the Basics: Relaying Games on KGS
Practise [2k\]: How is white reducing top-top-right?
woebegone [1k\]: you should talk about yourself in the second person, sameasyou
WuHoUnited [1k\]: i'd say that depends on whether something dies on bottom right
GreedKills [1k\]: i would guess san san
WuHoUnited [1k\]: but white could reduce well with his s9 stones
WuHoUnited [1k\]: so he's got options
Practise [2k\]: Yes, decisionsn decisions..
aertan [3k\]: just sansan
]
;W[jl]C[WuHoUnited [1k\]: is there anything like q18 which would stress the top side more?
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei shakes his head and sighs
]
;B[lj]C[Baconade [?\]: :O
]
;W[qj]C[GreedKills [1k\]: the mighty turtle
woebegone [1k\]: s6 dead now?
]
;B[di]C[GreedKills [1k\]: yes but it was dead before :)
poirette [2d\]: s6 was allways dead
woebegone [1k\]: oh
woebegone [1k\]: sorry
GreedKills [1k\]: we forgive you
]
;W[ci]C[brooklyn [3d\]: why not b s10 in sente before capturing?
USGO1 [-\]: He clacks this stone down firmly
Practise [2k\]: Black has good timing for getting last mileage out of F7, I think.
]
;B[ch]C[poirette [2d\]: s10 r10 then maybe?
poirette [2d\]: plus b got sente to control the game now i find*
Practise [2k\]: However, he is playing against white's points, I think.
]
;W[cj]C[GreedKills [1k\]: getting sente after this fight must be crucial
]
;B[dj]C[poirette [2d\]: oups main reason why no s10 : w m10 and ladder
]
;W[cg]
;B[bh]C[poirette [2d\]: or not
GreedKills [1k\]: don't worry many dans can't do ladders XD
Practise [2k\]: If it is white who plays next on right/top, where wou you play now?
]
;W[bg]
;B[eh]
;W[dg]
;B[ck]
;W[bi]
;B[bj]
;W[ah]C[GreedKills [1k\]: if b i'd play R15 or R14
]
;B[gk]C[GreedKills [1k\]: w
GreedKills [1k\]: san san
GreedKills [1k\]: but not soon obviously 
Arka [8k\]: where is the san san at r 17?
GreedKills [1k\]: yeah
Practise [2k\]: yes
Arka [8k\]: ah ty
waretsuyla [3k\]: where else
Practise [2k\]: However it seems easy for black to decide to block Q17
bstem: is b darkmage?
sameasyou [3d\]: no...he's a druid
AroundOneD [2d\]: san san means 3,3
Arka [8k\]: ah ok
Smilogo [5k\]: g9 is a nasty move :-)
AroundOneD [2d\]: there are four 3,3
WuHoUnited [1k\]: didn't think wihte really has a choice here
Practise [2k\]: Peeping his dead stones before too late is a good idea, Smil
WuHoUnited [1k\]: it's not just peeping though
Smilogo [5k\]: i think so too
WuHoUnited [1k\]: it's trying to seal off that whole area
AroundOneD [2d\]: b's plan is nice here
bstem: if w passes here, it's game over.
poirette [2d\]: L7 reactivates
martin3141 [3d\]: what does black have if wg8?
MiniST [2d\]: white needs to e6 first
WuHoUnited [1k\]: g8 f8 
WuHoUnited [1k\]: then messy
GreedKills [1k\]: also, w can't cut this way---f8 g8 g7 h7 g6 j8 h9 j9 h10 k7 
Smilogo [5k\]: b sente
woebegone [1k\]: g8 f9 ?
waretsuyla [3k\]: f10
martin3141 [3d\]: g8 f9 f8 
martin3141 [3d\]: then it's a forcing-move
FoH [9k\]: f8 maybe
poirette [2d\]: g8 f8
WuHoUnited [1k\]: g8 f8 f9 e9 f10 g10 f11 d7 d8 c8 d6 e6 d7 b7 ?
SR123 [4k\]: Nice demonstration of the value of a ponuki. 
poirette [2d\]: w can't cut, b wins semiai
kaketoe [11k\]: ponuki? where?
poirette [2d\]: w f8 only way to cut it seems
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei takes a break... Michael returns to see if Yongfei moved yet or not
Smilogo [5k\]: what r he doing, leaving?
FoH [9k\]: i think so also
USGO1 [-\]: They check the clocks
USGO1 [-\]: W: 1:20; B:1:24
martin3141 [3d\]: ok but f8 g8 g7 h7 g6 j8 looks playable for white
]
;W[fk]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: b's plan is to solidify d10 group through threating w's e7 group, and then swollow g14 stone. 
whatwhat [1k\]: cut was disasterous for w either way
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: e11 cut
Smilogo [5k\]: f9 looks good in my view
Goprince [3d\]: b plan is to kill either  e8 or d13
AroundOneD [2d\]: g10 for the purpose
poirette [2d\]: next b move is obvious :)
]
;B[fj]
;W[en]C[USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei whispers something to Michael (I think)
WuHoUnited [1k\]: not necessarily
USGO1 [-\]: Michael doesn't look up
Smilogo [5k\]: w threatening g8?
bugzhunter [1k\]: why w not r8 now?
]
;B[im]C[FoH [9k\]: f5 atm i think
bstem: yongfei said bring it on.
kostuek [3k\]: he said u should resign
bstem: michael: enough said, let's fight.
Smilogo [5k\]: j7 now its getting confusing for me :-)
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: m6 has shortage of liberties
domie [1d\]: J7 doesn't look very serious
WuHoUnited [1k\]: j7 plenty serious
Baytovn [6k\]: jongfei said, "I am hungry"
Glistening [9k\]: b wins
poirette [2d\]: yes but which way to respondD
Practise [2k\]: (arbitrary) wins
USGO1 [-\]: Feng Yun 9p wanders around the room, stopping by  to watch the game
waretsuyla [3k\]: j7 for f5 maybe
SunnyD [2d\]: why isn't feng yun playing anymore?
domie [1d\]: did he say "bye bye" ? :)
Smilogo [5k\]: j7 for cutting k8
Smilogo [5k\]: j7 cuts everything :-)
domie [1d\]: what about answering with J8 ?
Jethro [11k\]: why not h7?
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: b connects with g8 then
Jethro [11k\]: ok, J8
Practise [2k\]: I feel K7
]
;W[jm]C[Nation [4k\]: lol
pablo1 [6k\]: how much time do they have left?
Jethro [11k\]: yey
Practise [2k\]: Maybe this is my super power, I can know what Yongfei Ge thinks very shortly before I learn it from another source...
]
;B[il]C[Nation [4k\]: XDXD
Glistening [9k\]: hat's probably not ture
Smilogo [5k\]: cut!!!!!!
Jethro [11k\]: now, h7 :)
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: b j9 is large
AroundOneD [2d\]: j9
Smilogo [5k\]: h7 looks very slow
Jethro [11k\]: wait.. Does w want to get his c6 group out?
zakatan [3k\]: who sneezed?
zakatan [3k\]: didn't sound too good
gnfgnvh [1k\]: my guess is he needs h7
Smilogo [5k\]: h7 g8?
bulldaubo [8k\]: he need to get out
Jethro [11k\]: thats troublesome
myaccount: h7 j9
Smilogo [5k\]:  i think w g8 or f5
Jethro [11k\]: ya
bulldaubo [8k\]: not worth i think
]
;W[fo]C[bulldaubo [8k\]: get big point up right
Smilogo [5k\]: yeah my move :-)
AroundOneD [2d\]: k9
USGO1 [-\]: And then he steps away from the table
gnfgnvh [1k\]: h7 would've secured c6 group also
bulldaubo [8k\]: that why ur 5k
USGO1 [-\]: Michael is also away
gnfgnvh [1k\]: but i guess white wants black to j9 or something and he gets sente
Jethro [11k\]: away? like taking a break?
bulldaubo [8k\]: taking guidance from the air
SunnyD [2d\]: they went to consult the kibitz for help
Chee [21k\]: yeah they're aloud to step away from the board if they want
Jethro [11k\]: oh :O
]
;B[jk]C[Jethro [11k\]: j9
Practise [2k\]: sente sente
bulldaubo [8k\]: dont be too loud thouh
Jethro [11k\]: oh right.. i forget sente..
SunnyD [2d\]: what are we talking about???
Practise [2k\]: black threatens K6?
tonyho [1d\]: yes
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei fights his way back through the crowd
tonyho [1d\]: h9 likely
Smilogo [5k\]: i can see a black moyo there
USGO1 [-\]: Michael points to his last move
]
;W[jn]
;B[ri]C[Smilogo [5k\]: uh
Chee [21k\]: is there a place were I can actually watch the game as it happens
petition [3k\]: double uh
Smilogo [5k\]: :)
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: yes at the congress
USGO1 [-\]: you're watching it here as it happens
bulldaubo [8k\]: r11
tonyho [1d\]: r16?
petition [3k\]: so the winner of this game is the champion of the open?
Practise [2k\]: Didn't you guess this earlier, smilogo? Black finishes his sente and makes the big play on the right?
]
;W[pj]C[Illyria [?\]: no, Ge Yongfei is the winner of the open
Jethro [11k\]: good move, w
Smilogo [5k\]: chee: options copy 
USGO1 [-\]: Yes, this game is for the US Open Championship
]
;B[rj]C[bulldaubo [8k\]: cut
AroundOneD [2d\]: w get r12
petition [3k\]: wowzera!
USGO1 [-\]: Does Yongfei win even if he loses this match? I haven't been watching the tiebreaks
WillFront [1d\]: r12 
Illyria [?\]: yeah
Jethro [11k\]: p9
KGSisKGS: w p9?
fabz [11k\]: P9 is not big enough for w ?
Illyria [?\]: he has much better tiebreaks than zchen does
antijole [2k\]: shibori
cdpruitt [5k\]: R12
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: r12
AroundOneD [2d\]: soon or later p9, but r12 better now
Jethro [11k\]: it is sente :)
Jethro [11k\]: right? :)
Arka [8k\]: right
hockey [2d\]: righteous
fabz [11k\]: later he wont have p9
Jethro [11k\]: as long as he keeps sente, he will have p9
Jethro [11k\]: or it wont be needed
Practise [2k\]: I want to play P17 for no discernable reason
]
;W[pk]
;B[pi]C[bulldaubo [8k\]: r11
Jethro [11k\]: yea
bulldaubo [8k\]: this is second call
Smilogo [5k\]: r11 r12
Jethro [11k\]: second call?
fabz [11k\]: why q9 instead of p9 ?
WillFront [1d\]: p11 
fabz [11k\]: the shape ?
bulldaubo [8k\]: p9?
Smilogo [5k\]: I see the b moyo getting bigger
happyax [9k\]: p9 r11 r8 and i think that gives black to much
cdpruitt [5k\]: If p9, p10 r8 r11
patrickn [2k\]: b wants him to p9
cdpruitt [5k\]: Not good for white
Practise [2k\]: I think it is not obvious the time is correct to finish local yose
Practise [2k\]: though it may well be
sameasyou [3d\]: b sacrifices 2 stones to finish the wall
]
;W[qc]C[DrGoPlayer [3k\]: w wants sente for r17 or he must breach the wall
USGO1 [-\]: Clack!
SSBMeta [11k\]: finally
]
;B[pc]
;W[qd]C[bulldaubo [8k\]: the board broke?
iR2Noob [10k\]: lol
Jethro [11k\]: that was nice :)
iR2Noob [10k\]: not that big ? 
fabz [11k\]: b is going moyo
Practise [2k\]: moves around R10 now just big yose
iR2Noob [10k\]: and he has a corner
iR2Noob [10k\]: so r17 isnt that great
kostuek [3k\]: yeah, just 7d strong
]
;B[qe]
;W[re]C[Smilogo [5k\]: r14 is the obvious move
]
;B[sm]C[iR2Noob [10k\]: lol
iR2Noob [10k\]: obvious
Olmi [2d\]: hah
Smilogo [5k\]: :)
USGO1 [-\]: Who thought of that one?
cdpruitt [5k\]: Oh, nice
brooklyn [3d\]: anyone know how the tiebreaker works?  the 2 players who are 4-1 both have their one loss to Yongfei, but if they do SOS / SODOS i think it's exactly tied. . . .  .
maynerd [9d\]: nobody, considering it doesnt do anything
simplet [3d\]: attack from dead stones
kostuek [3k\]: only zchwn seems like
Practise [2k\]: thinking move
Glistening [9k\]: maynerd's right, that's a terrible move
maynerd [9d\]: filler actually
LeeTekSum [3d\]: this maybe Yongfei's first defeat
Nation [4k\]: and now I say lol
maynerd [9d\]: doesnt do anything
bstem: b t9 saves a bunch, right?
brooklyn [3d\]: might it capture the q9 stones? w can't let b connect under, so he's gotta play t8 or t9
USGO1 [-\]: Yilun Yang 7p now stops by to watch the game
cdpruitt [5k\]: beats me
Nation [4k\]: Yilun!
kostuek [3k\]: maybe ko in planning?
hockey [2d\]: where is gu li?
hockey [2d\]: or lee sedol
simplet [3d\]: try atari at r14 before all decision?
sameasyou [3d\]: maynerd...doesn b gets to play r11 sente because of t7?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: 杨一轮
woebegone [1k\]: p9 ?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: b gets to play s3
LeeTekSum [3d\]: and gain one liberty
cdpruitt [5k\]: Can't p9, black connects
]
;W[sl]
;B[rq]
;W[rr]C[hockey [2d\]: so what
sameasyou [3d\]: r11 sente and b is satisfied
hockey [2d\]: w has 20 liberties
brooklyn [3d\]: P9
meghneel [21k\]: t4.
cdpruitt [5k\]: Now p9
LeeTekSum [3d\]: now s14
brooklyn [3d\]: R11
hockey [2d\]: j12
cdpruitt [5k\]: This is like bingo
fabz [11k\]: T2 doesnt work ?
]
;B[qi]C[hockey [2d\]: what does it matter
hockey [2d\]: b is very far behind
LeeTekSum [3d\]: white will tenuki
Smilogo [5k\]: fabz: u cant live with s4 group
Jethro [11k\]: what does tenuki mean?
AroundOneD [2d\]: for s14
sameasyou [3d\]: can't tenuki
sameasyou [3d\]: if w tenuki then ko
LeeTekSum [3d\]: meaning play somewhere else
Odwalla [3k\]: q18
Jethro [11k\]: ah
LeeTekSum [3d\]: or not answer
sameasyou [3d\]: r8
]
;W[sn]
;B[rf]C[Smilogo [5k\]: p9
]
;W[jc]C[USGO1 [-\]: Clack!
Glistening [9k\]: k16
cdpruitt [5k\]: It was a must hane situation
simplet [3d\]: r8 does nothing
kostuek [3k\]: woha
kostuek [3k\]: blood
compendium [?\]: lol
Glistening [9k\]: blud
sameasyou [3d\]: yup...the black teritory is doomed...b should resign
Practise [2k\]: this move should not have been a surprise
compendium [?\]: this doesnt seem worth it
Smilogo [5k\]: kill this little bastard :)
LeeTekSum [3d\]: M17 to be safe
compendium [?\]: l18 probably
knight [12k\]: what is that 
kostuek [3k\]: it isnt the same without bigdoug
knight [12k\]: teaching game ?
knight [12k\]: who is teaching
bstem: b's playing a weak hand strongly and it's good.
LeeTekSum [3d\]: corner is pretty big too
SunnyD [2d\]: we are here to teach 7ds
fabz [11k\]: w played k17 and then left the table like its nothing...
knight [12k\]: ? :O what USGO01 means
Chee [21k\]: Yongfei has left the board he went somewhere
yoon [5k\]: scribe changed?
Chee [21k\]: yeah
Smilogo [5k\]: perhaps k17 is nothing
ShapeMaker [4k\]: US Go Open 1 (board 1)
Jsnake [2k\]: are there streaming video's of these games?
Chee [21k\]: yes
USGO1 [-\]: as you can see, Yongfei has returned to the game
LeeTekSum [3d\]: he knows it will be a whilel befor Zchen make up his mind
Jsnake [2k\]: can you pm the link to me?
knight [12k\]: is he going to talk ?
Chee [21k\]: sure
knight [12k\]: cool
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei looks to be shaking by bouncing his knee
compendium [?\]: j18, then q18 p18 p17 r18
ShapeMaker [4k\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
]
;B[lc]C[USGO1 [-\]: both players lean in a bit
Jsnake [2k\]: thank you
bstem: zchen likes to make the board a big mess.
LeeTekSum [3d\]: Zchen finally copy my move
USGO1 [-\]: there is a large window on the other side of the recorder
compendium [?\]: b can q18
compendium [?\]: i mean w
USGO1 [-\]: we have viewers on both sides nw
]
;W[ib]C[Smilogo [5k\]: attack!!
]
;B[jd]C[USGO1 [-\]: whites move was so forceful on the board it moved some stones around
Smilogo [5k\]: w should get sente
ShapeMaker [4k\]: He's taking psycological win:)
bstem: w's out of sorts, that's why he plays hard.
compendium [?\]: q18 p18 s18 looks interesting for w
knight [12k\]: yongfei are you a pro ?
USGO1 [-\]: yongfei is not a professional
iR2Noob [10k\]: lol
Jethro [11k\]: but what about the s8-group? is it safe?
Smilogo [5k\]: w corner very small
knight [12k\]: so what is that
LeeTekSum [3d\]: Yongfei just found out his tuffest oppenent is right across from the table
iR2Noob [10k\]: it was never in trouble
bstem: i like b's play even if he loses.
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: 2 step ko maybe?
Jethro [11k\]: oh
LeeTekSum [3d\]: go Zchen
knight [12k\]: who is talking from the USGO1 member
knight [12k\]: an admin ?
bstem: b's a full contact street fighter.
]
;W[hc]
;B[id]C[bstem: and he fights in the back alleys.
]
;W[kc]
;B[kd]
;W[lb]C[USGO1 [-\]: Clack!
kostuek [3k\]: street fighters full contact only
]
;B[kb]
;W[jb]
;B[mb]C[Hendrix [1d\]: huge center
LeeTekSum [3d\]: hard to deal with a street fighter, isn't it?
Smilogo [5k\]: what`s with w corner?
simplet [3d\]: the corner is dying
fabz [11k\]: thats why i dont understand people saying b lost for sure
compendium [?\]: now q18 p18 s18 is less interesting
kostuek [3k\]: depends on ur weapons
knight [12k\]: i have no idea what you guys talking about
knight [12k\]: this is boring
LeeTekSum [3d\]: white didn't have time to deal with the corner
MoonWalker [2d\]: w still has e14 to cause trouble
USGO1 [-\]: Michael takes a handful of stones and places them on the table in front of him
]
;W[pb]
;B[ob]
;W[qf]
;B[pe]
;W[rd]
;B[rg]
;W[qb]C[simplet [3d\]: ah right
MoonWalker [2d\]: f14
USGO1 [-\]: Michael now seems to focusing on the upper left portion of the board
kostuek [3k\]: b9
Smilogo [5k\]: it lives
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei steps away
fabz [11k\]: O17
AroundOneD [2d\]: m19
Jethro [11k\]: what happened?
ShapeMaker [4k\]: top right and bottom left identical now :)
Jethro [11k\]: is it still on?
fabz [11k\]: yes
Smilogo [5k\]: w threatens e14
AroundOneD [2d\]: or e13
Jethro [11k\]: what about the handful of stones? what does that mean?
AroundOneD [2d\]: both big
]
;B[eg]C[ShapeMaker [4k\]: handful - amount you can take with one hand
Jethro [11k\]: hehe
Baytovn [6k\]: it means he is holding some stones in his hand
Jethro [11k\]: ah
AroundOneD [2d\]: b is leading a lot
Glistening [9k\]: noice
LeeTekSum [3d\]: Zchen secured his center which is more than 50 points
Smilogo [5k\]: the whole is closed
bstem: nice show of force, b's good.
USGO1 [-\]: Michael points to his last move as Yongfei returns
brooklyn [3d\]: did b just win this one?
knight [12k\]: S5 is ko ?
ShapeMaker [4k\]: isn't b+<alot>?
drau [5k\]: l13 nice place to invade 
Smilogo [5k\]: i dont think so
drau [5k\]: :)
kostuek [3k\]: if u spartan
Jethro [11k\]: how much time left?
Glistening [9k\]: LOL
Smilogo [5k\]: against me perhaps
ShapeMaker [4k\]: Chuck Norris would invade
MoonWalker [2d\]: around e14 and g10 may be the last fight
USGO1 [-\]: W:50 mins; B:60 mins
Jethro [11k\]: chuck norris would roundhouse the opponent
Jethro [11k\]: oh. thank you
knight [12k\]: q10 belong to black right ?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: Yongfei could not believe that he has no way to turn this game around
madigouf [1d\]: Chuck Norris never kibitzes...
Baytovn [6k\]: Chuck Norris gets the job done
sensemaker [4d\]: q10 depends who move first
knight [12k\]: right
bstem: style makes the match. w's strategy is no match for b's power punch.
Smilogo [5k\]: w can save q10 if its good
Glistening [9k\]: wow, yongfei really pulled a loss out of nowhere
LeeTekSum [3d\]: thinking about how to resign from this
Glistening [9k\]: i'd say he didn't play a single good move in the last 50
knight [12k\]: he can lose r 7
knight [12k\]: if he makes a mistake
kostuek [3k\]: w in trouble since n8 seems like
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei cups his head in his hands with his elbows on the table
Smilogo [5k\]: w k17 was good technique
fabz [11k\]: i dont understand how can such players let his opponent making moyo that easy
k11go [2d\]: who is leading?
USGO1 [-\]: Michael gently rocks back and forth in his seat
bstem: if you fight a power puncher, don't flinch or it's over.
Javaness [3d\]: tell him to sit still
sensemaker [4d\]: moyo is hard to fight against
nay4ok [2k?\]: wow... with all those adjectives it's like reading a novel
]
;W[ef]
;B[ee]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: game's over
Jethro [11k\]: beautiful
Smilogo [5k\]: close the door
LeeTekSum [3d\]: time to resign
SunnyD [2d\]: J10 suij!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
LeeTekSum [3d\]: you can't win all, Yongfei
fabz [11k\]: people that say game over were the same saying b should resign 20 minutes ago
AroundOneD [2d\]: w lost around g9 area, too soft
brooklyn [3d\]: g10?
h7E5E7 [4d\]: first f 14
AroundOneD [2d\]: g10 should be very earlier
Smilogo [5k\]: perhaps the backdoor is not sealed
AroundOneD [2d\]: played
LeeTekSum [3d\]: the best bet is F14
brooklyn [3d\]: i mean right now
LeeTekSum [3d\]: last chance to struggle
drau [5k\]: around h9 
h7E5E7 [4d\]: e11 then
bstem: w was too comfy with early lead.
brooklyn [3d\]: for example if b responds at h9, w can connect f14 and then cut at e11 i think
h7E5E7 [4d\]: i think
AroundOneD [2d\]: now maybe too late for fight
brooklyn [3d\]: oh wait, nvm
Sayuu [4d\]: i think f14 and f11 might be troublesome
bstem: i can't see their moves but i can see thier minds.
Tictactoe [-\]: g10
AroundOneD [2d\]: w has to fight back
LeeTekSum [3d\]: before f14, w cuts at g10
BobWhoosta [1k\]: White has to read as much as he can, and then play it anyway.
fabz [11k\]: now its  do or die
AroundOneD [2d\]: normal end game will lose the game.
fastPitch [6d?\]: I cannot see how W can win this game
Glistening [9k\]: yep b wins
kostuek [3k\]: time for superstrong monkey jump at o1
Glistening [9k\]: told you all like 50 moves ago it would happen
AroundOneD [2d\]: very hard
robotosan [3d\]: with a really good endgame
fastPitch [6d?\]: zchen played divinely
jaedge [3k\]: o1 or n2?
bstem: next tiime i'll ask a 9h game with zchen and beat him up squarely.
TheDuke [2d\]: No, zchen played maynerdly.
maynerd [9d\]: yongfei played mayonnaise
AroundOneD [2d\]: f14 and then j10?
kostuek [3k\]: n2 doesnt look like monkey
vegmandu [3d\]: But is he winning?
maynerd [9d\]: zchen played his usual crap
]
;W[ff]
;B[df]C[simplet [3d\]: if o1, then q1
]
;W[fi]C[Jethro [11k\]: crap?
kostuek [3k\]: w needs monkey
brooklyn [3d\]: oooooooooh shiiiiiiit
cdpruitt [5k\]: It's on
Glistening [9k\]: qhhhhhhhhh
Smilogo [5k\]: yeah
fastPitch [6d?\]: oh shit
podshoppa [1k?\]: lol
compendium [?\]: did he slam this one down?
cdpruitt [5k\]: It's a maynerd, for sure
SHeeeeeeet [3k\]: Sheeeeeeeeet
podshoppa [1k?\]: lmao
brooklyn [3d\]: holy shitake mushrooms
USGO1 [-\]: nope, all quietly placed
DesMites [5k\]: mingming wins ?
simplet [3d\]: lol
fastPitch [6d?\]: I was just prasing him and he immediate gets into trouble
KGSisKGS: yes mingming won the other game
NeilM [4k\]: brooklyn - Learn some respect
Sayuu [4d\]: unfavorable ko
brooklyn [3d\]: who did mingming play?
Smilogo [5k\]: sayuu got it 10m ago
Sayuu [4d\]: lucky guess
TheDuke [2d\]: Instead of cutting off, he could have defended thickly and force him to connect.
Smilogo [5k\]: :)
maynerd [9d\]: brooklyners are kings dude
Glistening [9k\]: they live like sultans
maynerd [9d\]: we show no respect to anyone
Glistening [9k\]: and feast like vikings
USGO1 [-\]: Stephanie defeated Juyong Koh
Glistening [9k\]: and womanize like kobe
rmod [2k?\]: e10?
Jethro [11k\]: g10?
Muadhdib [9k\]: g11
KGSisKGS: g11 b
martin3141 [3d\]: I think e13 should have been at f14
DonValley [?\]: e10
fabz [11k\]: f12?
Smilogo [5k\]: f12 looks terrible
Nation [4k\]: because it is terrible?
Jethro [11k\]: he is trying to kill e12?
simplet [3d\]: how many laps remaining?
]
;B[ej]C[Smilogo [5k\]: hmmm :)
rmod [2k?\]: winner
Jethro [11k\]: nice one :)
Nation [4k\]: kinda expected :/
h7E5E7 [4d\]: now w g 11
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: yes
Smilogo [5k\]: with the idea f12 :)
LeeTekSum [3d\]: w whats more
LeeTekSum [3d\]: w g11
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei points to the stones on the board and mutters something to himself
brooklyn [3d\]: h10 would work, but does w need more...
USGO1 [-\]: Michael shakes his head just a bit
simplet [3d\]: ut cant be bad
h7E5E7 [4d\]: it there an online video to see the players ?
bstem: gee, they both are described as defeated.
simplet [3d\]: cut cant be bad *
HomoLudens [1k\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
AroundOneD [2d\]: g10 anyway
Goprince [3d\]: cut never bad
fastPitch [6d?\]: they acted like defeated to confuse their opponents
simplet [3d\]: )
LeeTekSum [3d\]: cut is not enough to win
EeveeM [3k\]: if w went G11, I think b might G13.
AroundOneD [2d\]: either f11 side or h8 may get sth
KGSisKGS: w h9?
Smilogo [5k\]: w e11 is bad
sensemaker [4d\]: white must invade
BobWhoosta [1k\]: And they are both thinking "Oh no, he's acting defeated, I must be in trouble!!!"
USGO1 [-\]: Or perhaps it could be that Michael is just shaking off some alternate variations in his head
Jethro [11k\]: perhaps
KGSisKGS: I would think so
yoon [5k\]: i dont believe that
Smilogo [5k\]: micheal thinks about e13
LeeTekSum [3d\]: Michael doesn't have a choice now
USGO15 [-\]: Michael is sweating balls.
]
;W[hj]C[Javaness [3d\]: chinese players usually look like they are lost when they are winning
kostuek [3k\]: go makes a bit strange, thats all
h7E5E7 [4d\]: wow
yoon [5k\]: maybe they have become possessed by demons
sensemaker [4d\]: do they look like lost, when losing too ?
KGSisKGS: b should h9 now
brooklyn [3d\]: called it
EeveeM [3k\]: G10 cut is vital though
LeeTekSum [3d\]: h9 is what w want him to play
BobWhoosta [1k\]: Something tells me this is going to end with some dead stones somewhere.
NeilM [4k\]: yup
Smilogo [5k\]: w threatening e11
EeveeM [3k\]: mm.. I think G10 then go H8 if w goes H9
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: no bob?  :-
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: )
BobWhoosta [1k\]: I just get this sense, call it intuition.
martin3141 [3d\]: I think black should have played f14 instead of e13
KGSisKGS: maybe b should h13... ?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: when was f14, last year?
fastPitch [6d?\]: Let's give up the two black stones
fabz [11k\]: h9 then G11 for b
USGO15 [-\]: A shriek echoes through the hall.
KGSisKGS: ???
goeoeson [12k?\]: ???????
eboesch [1k\]: if b g10 h9 h11 then b defends e11 too
uzbrakos: murder on the go board!
EeveeM [3k\]: ooh.. H9 is needed.
cdpruitt [5k\]: It's the ghost of Christmas past!
LeeTekSum [3d\]: g11 is the best answer
EeveeM [3k\]: b has G13 to help out the 2 stones.
Arka [8k\]: g 13 is bad?
]
;B[hi]C[EeveeM [3k\]: that's interesting.
Jsnake [3k\]: crazy
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: g11
yoon [5k\]: usgo1 what are they doing now?
USGO15 [-\]: Yongfei stares intently at H11 and sniffs at the board.
rmod [2k?\]: lol
sensemaker [4d\]: how many USGO's are there?
USGO15 [-\]: 20
KGSisKGS: l9? then l10 for b then k10 then j9 then h9???
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: as many as needed
k11go [2d\]: w e1-0
fastPitch [6d?\]: whosever allowed to play 2moves at this time wins the game easily
k11go [2d\]: lol
LeeTekSum [3d\]: now w even can't e11
k11go [2d\]: why not?
simplet [3d\]: cause shisho
KGSisKGS: g12 is why
LeeTekSum [3d\]: e11 , f12
Viperlason [5d\]: J11
fastPitch [6d?\]: looks like H11 is a cool move
Viperlason [5d\]: hane that STONE
AroundOneD [2d\]: if e11 is enough for w, w can play g11 for e11
fastPitch [6d?\]: It reminds me of some move I have seen before
USGO1 [-\]: I'm afraid usgo15's was not an official AGA sponsored comment
MoonWalker [2d\]: really dont like e13
MoonWalker [2d\]: f14 could be better imo
USGO21 [-\]: i'm afraid so
h7E5E7 [4d\]: lol
AroundOneD [2d\]: g10?
liverjam99 [2d?\]: j11?
sensemaker [4d\]: is USGO1 official ?
sweety [-\]: yes
AroundOneD [2d\]: swollow 5 stones may be enough
h7E5E7 [4d\]: g 10  G11
AroundOneD [2d\]: then h9
]
;W[gj]
;B[gi]C[KGSisKGS: i think l9 would be an okay move now
]
;W[ik]C[simplet [3d\]: now j10 or ...
simplet [3d\]: ah
h7E5E7 [4d\]: and ?
AroundOneD [2d\]: or j10
sameasyou [3d\]: sweety are u attending this congress?
SunnyD [2d\]: J10!!!!
sweety [-\]: i was there earlier
KTSS: k10
cofrhg: not a bad gain for w
sameasyou [3d\]: kicked out already? :)
Javaness [3d\]: did they ban you?
AroundOneD [2d\]: j10 better than j9?
sameasyou [3d\]: Javaness is mean...unlike me
sweety [-\]: i booted myself
Viperlason [5d\]: *nods*
liverjam99 [2d?\]: is this enough for white? centre still looks big
]
;B[ii]
;W[jj]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: i think black winning
Jethro [11k\]: j10
rmod [2k?\]: what ?
sensemaker [4d\]: i can win as black here
eboesch [1k\]: j10 does look tempting to me too
fabz [11k\]: J10 then L9
LeeTekSum [3d\]: just simpley block at k11
sameasyou [3d\]: against who sensemaker/
sameasyou [3d\]: ?
sensemaker [4d\]: yongfei
Viperlason [5d\]: lol, sweety booted herself
simplet [3d\]: white is more devasted by j10 then black
sensemaker [4d\]: J10 win easy
]
;B[ij]
;W[hk]C[cofrhg: q2 now?
KGSisKGS: now h 7?
kaniini: sensemaker, if that was true, w would be well aware of the fact and would have resigned already
AroundOneD [2d\]: m19
]
;B[kk]C[sameasyou [3d\]: kaniini make more sense than sensemaker...weird
coarray [-\]: how is Zi Yang Hu?
Viperlason [5d\]: blacks center seems to be dominating...
Jethro [11k\]: h7
]
;W[bk]C[sensemaker [4d\]: yongfei's the one not making sense
]
;B[bl]
;W[aj]
;B[cl]C[Viperlason [5d\]: I thought Yongfei was setting up for resignation
phoedran [9k\]: w p9
]
;W[ka]C[liverjam99 [2d?\]: l9 necessary? looks gote yose
Viperlason [5d\]: its big
]
;B[nc]C[DrGoPlayer [3k\]: n2 for w?
Viperlason [5d\]: and sente if white captures
kostuek [3k\]: w will got his monkey
AroundOneD [2d\]: w no p9
NeilM [4k\]: w p9 suicide
phoedran [9k\]: ah right i missed that
phoedran [9k\]: ill just go back to being silent then
]
;W[gr]C[NeilM [4k\]: haha
MarcoRosso [6k\]: O1 for white, or B15. both are good moves
Jethro [11k\]: if b: h7? what happens then? :)
KGSisKGS: t5 w? then b can't play t4?
simplet [3d\]: o1 is no good
liverjam99 [2d?\]: dont think w can o1 cause of the liberties
simplet [3d\]: o1 q1
NeilM [4k\]: score is close I believe
]
;B[pr]C[kostuek [3k\]: h7 g8 g7 f8 thats all, e5 dead
LeeTekSum [3d\]: black is allowed to make small mistakes
LeeTekSum [3d\]: but not big ones
]
;W[ir]
;B[jr]
;W[hs]C[fabz [11k\]: P9 sente for b
]
;B[sr]C[NeilM [4k\]: p9 suicide
Jethro [11k\]: kostuek: not h7 g8 f8?
Jethro [11k\]: ah, i see
]
;W[so]C[cugel [1k\]: w has problem
kostuek [3k\]: f8 not atari, since g8 captures g9
LeeTekSum [3d\]: t3
AroundOneD [2d\]: t3
eboesch [1k\]: neil, p9 isn't sente, it would have been a way to kill q10
]
;B[sq]
;W[sm]C[Jethro [11k\]: i realized :)
kostuek [3k\]: :)
]
;B[ok]C[KGSisKGS: t4
cugel [1k\]: by 3 stones
]
;W[ql]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: b's big mistake coming
KGSisKGS: b's stones at the bottem right are dead
ennuistic [1d\]: ?
ennuistic [1d\]: he's fixing bottom right now.
]
;B[oj]
;W[sp]C[KGSisKGS: see dead
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: yes
]
;B[js]C[cugel [1k\]: b got 3 stones
Silchas [2d?\]: in sente
Illyria [?\]: 6 points sente is pretty huge
KGSisKGS: and w got 8 :p
LeeTekSum [3d\]: ok, no mistake
Jethro [11k\]: isnt r9 better?
Jethro [11k\]: oh, gote
Silchas [2d?\]: white got nothing
Jethro [11k\]: no, sente :)
Silchas [2d?\]: each stone added by black was answered by white
Silchas [2d?\]: so it cancels
Muadhdib [9k\]: so..who's winning now?
]
;W[lo]C[eboesch [1k\]: yeah, OK, I totally misread that
AroundOneD [2d\]: b still leads
]
;B[lp]
;W[bc]
;B[bd]
;W[bb]C[LeeTekSum [3d\]: winning big time!
]
;B[pa]C[kostuek [3k\]: w cant r9 anyway, cuz of selfatari
]
;W[rb]
;B[gl]
;W[hm]C[DonValley [?\]: who won curtis/danny game?
madigouf [1d\]: A6
USGO1 [-\]: Curtis
DonValley [?\]: thx
]
;B[gm]
;W[in]C[AroundOneD [2d\]: no use
WoolyMaCha [4k?\]: DonValley is back, long time no see.
]
;B[al]
;W[ao]C[DonValley [?\]: :)
Smilogo [5k\]: a2
USGO1 [-\]: For a moment Yongfei didn't realize where Michael played, and asked him, and Michael pointed out the atari (h7 stones)
simplet [3d\]: or a3
martin3141 [3d\]: a4?
]
;B[ar]C[liverjam99 [2d?\]: why not a4?
AroundOneD [2d\]: a4 dangerous
]
;W[ss]C[Jsnake [3k\]: in a match like this.. how aware are the players of the score at this point?
martin3141 [3d\]: why dangerous?
Amenophis [5k?\]: a2 is common here
]
;B[qk]C[KGSisKGS: then a2 by w
boopdeboop [3d\]: after a4 w can still make seki with b2
martin3141 [3d\]: I agree but a4 makes a2 and a6 miai or not?
cugel [1k\]: like very much aware
rmod [2k?\]: then a6 and connect...
USGO1 [-\]: Michael checks the clock; W:19 ins; B: 44 mins
liverjam99 [2d?\]: after a4 then a6 connects and alive
liverjam99 [2d?\]: so first a4 then a2
Jethro [11k\]: how long are these games? 2 hours each?
martin3141 [3d\]: maybe black can play a4 later on in sente anyway
boopdeboop [3d\]: so why bother playing a4 if you have to play a2 anyway?
Tictactoe [-\]: hmm it's rather close isn't it
liverjam99 [2d?\]: now wa4 takes a point
Smilogo [5k\]: i agree with a4 now
]
;W[op]
;B[np]
;W[ps]C[Tictactoe [-\]: white to win a halfpointer?
]
;B[os]
;W[qs]C[boopdeboop [3d\]: better style to leave it, play a2 directly
cugel [1k\]: A2 is the classic yose it's same
martin3141 [3d\]: no imo it's better style to play a4
alfuij [8k\]: jethro yes
boopdeboop [3d\]: why?
Jethro [11k\]: oh darn!
]
;B[hd]C[martin3141 [3d\]: cause if black later plays a4 white might not answer it
Celerity [3d\]: worse to play a4
rmod [2k?\]: better style is less points lol
play234 [-\]: w win by at least komi i think
]
;W[gc]C[martin3141 [3d\]: then if black takes, a2 will be wasted
liverjam99 [2d?\]: because now w can a4 and the corner is a point smaller
boopdeboop [3d\]: no, it's now endgame that b will get
Tictactoe [-\]: to be or not b2 that's the question
]
;B[ap]C[KGSisKGS: lolz :P
Jethro [11k\]: e16 is 1 point, right?
HomoLudens [1k\]: b+5 for my bad counting
martin3141 [3d\]: if w now answers, it will be the same result
boopdeboop [3d\]: playing your sente endgame as early as possible is bad
boopdeboop [3d\]: should play it as late as possible
cugel [1k\]: but w has to
martin3141 [3d\]: lol 
liverjam99 [2d?\]: but if w dont answer now he got a bigger move somewhere else
martin3141 [3d\]: never heard about that boop
boopdeboop [3d\]: of course he won't - b would hardly have played A4 now if it wasn't sente
iooyjj: yesterday who won? zchen or mingjiu?
]
;W[an]C[KGSisKGS: mingjiu
iooyjj: thx
KGSisKGS: np
cugel [1k\]: mingjiu lashed out on him
martin3141 [3d\]: in this case black should have played a4 in the first place
play234 [-\]: oh, yah b wins
]
;B[dl]C[kostuek [3k\]: w a4 was gote, so about 0 pnts
]
;W[dm]
;B[fh]C[boopdeboop [3d\]: we agree that b had tyo take gote and play a2 anyway. so the question is whether he should have got in a one-point sente endgame move first
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: w  62 on board
simplet [3d\]: e9
boopdeboop [3d\]: obviously not - you don't go round playing all your one-point sente endgame moves as soon as possible
cugel [1k\]: u know it was gonna be sente anyway
martin3141 [3d\]: if black thinks there might still be a ko, then I agree
Sayuu [4d\]: i think white leads
boopdeboop [3d\]: exactly, going to be sente anyway. If it would be gote after a2 then it should be taken first
USGO1 [-\]: Yongfei exhales and shakes his head
]
;W[qa]C[Ritm [10k\]: is he all rigth?
KGSisKGS: he is depressed that he is losing
DrGoPlayer [3k\]: b about 80 on board so with 7.5 komi w wins by 2
]
;B[ek]
;W[gn]
;B[oa]C[asdfaaa: what is the link for live broadcast?
HomoLudens [1k\]: http://www.eurogotv.com/index.php?menu=Live&channel=EuroGoTV-US
Jethro [11k\]: b: f8?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: e9 not good
Jethro [11k\]: ah, my bad
martin3141 [3d\]: in that case should black have waited with a4 because there might still be a ko?
KGSisKGS: no
drau [5k\]: w+5-6 my count
KGSisKGS: f8 is no good
]
;W[ma]C[boopdeboop [3d\]: yes
Jethro [11k\]: i know :P
]
;B[na]
;W[la]C[MarcoRosso [6k\]: B: 89 - white: 67 by my count
fastPitch [6d?\]: what a counting
fastPitch [6d?\]: B win 5-10 points
USGO1 [-\]: Michael is eating his chips now that he got earlier this morning
cugel [1k\]: u forgot something
]
;B[is]C[KGSisKGS: w should play e16 and get another point :P
Shenron [1d\]: fountains the captures 
LeeTekSum [3d\]: j1
madigouf [1d\]: B+4.5
LeeTekSum [3d\]: good
Octavian [5k\]: gap not 20 pts
]
;W[hr]C[Jethro [11k\]: c14 or b15 for w?
LeeTekSum [3d\]: a9
KGSisKGS: for b yep
LeeTekSum [3d\]: or b14
]
;B[es]
;W[fs]
;B[ds]
;W[sf]
;B[sg]
;W[se]C[simplet [3d\]: just a17
madigouf [1d\]: E16
madigouf [1d\]: E16
]
;B[ak]C[madigouf [1d\]: E16
]
;W[bj]C[madigouf [1d\]: bof...
MarcoRosso [6k\]: o right forgot the captures lol.. with that - W 85 - B: 72
KGSpro [3d\]: ~.~
]
;B[ed]
;W[ec]C[madigouf [1d\]: :)
KGSisKGS: a17
]
;B[bf]
;W[cf]C[Jethro [11k\]: c14
]
;B[be]
;W[sj]
;B[ac]C[mw [-\]: b+4
]
;W[ab]
;B[ad]C[Arka [8k\]: really b wins?
mw [-\]: y
KingKazma [2d\]: yes
Arka [8k\]: allright strange SE
fabz [11k\]: just look at the board
KingKazma [2d\]: SE onlz knows japanes rules
Arka [8k\]: ah ok
Silchas [2d?\]: b+6.5?
]
;W[si]
;B[sh]
;W[sk]C[mw [-\]: fabz can count this board at a glance. how strong...
gnfgnvh [1k\]: looks like w + 2.5 to me 
]
;B[af]C[k11go [2d\]: B+3
Kapacb [1d\]: b+4
Gearloose [5k\]: black needs to capture n4 
cugel [1k\]: so easy to use irony on weaker player
Illyria [?\]: b+6.5
MarcoRosso [6k\]: W : +7 for me
iooyjj: dont need to capture n4
]
;W[ag]C[Kapacb [1d\]: no need
Kissu [8k\]: W 0-1
KingKazma [2d\]: marcorosso, how do you count?
]
;B[dd]
;W[gd]C[sensemaker [4d\]: N3
]
;B[mq]
;W[fd]C[iooyjj: wat
mw [-\]: poorly is the answer
]
;B[ei]C[iooyjj: ????
]
;W[ce]
;B[am]C[thepaper [1k?\]: cause of o1
]
;W[mn]C[mw [-\]: o1 is a problem if b does not capture
]
;B[bm]C[MarcoRosso [6k\]: Manually, I took an estimate from my previous counting
thepaper [1k?\]: and n2
martin3141 [3d\]: b: 94 w: 86,5
TheHood [2k\]: when n6  played, n3 necessary
iooyjj: i dont know
iooyjj: i think not but ok
martin3141 [3d\]: b+7,5
mw [-\]: o1 p2 n3 if n6 liberty is gone
KGSisKGS: b plus 6.5
fastPitch [6d?\]: like I said, B win by 5-10 pts
k11go [2d\]: b+ 3.5
]
;W[]
;B[]C[Illyria [?\]: b+5.5
]
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KGSisKGS: b 6.5
USGO1 [-\]: They hand each other their pass stones
Winc [1k\]: 7.5
USGO1 [-\]: they are counting now
hvk [-\]: W=4.5
davideo [3k\]: 5.5
davideo [3k\]: 5.5
hgma [4k\]: If Chen wins, he will be the US open champ?
mw [-\]: n
KGSisKGS: no
sensemaker [4d\]: USGO1 can just show SE to them
sensemaker [4d\]: no need count
dogbert [3d\]: LOL
Winc [1k\]: its 6.5 and (2-1) points for pass stones
KGSisKGS: Zchen won yay!
sanri [5k\]: tehere's a fish
simplet [3d\]: fishy fish
sanri [5k\]: there*
Illyria [?\]: what's the secondary tiebreaker after SOS?
MoonWalker [2d\]: thay dont know how to arrange the stones to count easily?...
zakatan [3k\]: gas a fons
Illyria [?\]: because it might come to that
SR123 [4k\]: SE says w+1.5 
simplet [3d\]: and a submarine
hvk [-\]: .
boopdeboop [3d\]: SE is wrong on area scoring
hvk [-\]: \]??
baltimore [3k\]: B wins!
baltimore [3k\]: 13 points on theboard
slinfolo [7k\]: isnt SE accurate at this point?
USGO1 [-\]: they counted B+5.5
sanri [5k\]: there are two fishes
ec1 [2d?\]: Thanks USGO1 
yoon [5k\]:  thanks
sweety [-\]: Thank you USGO1~
Illyria [?\]: thanks USGO1!
KGSisKGS: Thank you USGO1
Jethro [11k\]: thank you
apollyon [16k\]: thx
woebegone [1k\]: se counts japanese
happyax [9k\]: thanks
ManOfLOL [5k\]: thanks
USGO1 [-\]: Thanks everyone for watching
rmod [2k?\]: anymore games?
fastPitch [6d?\]: wow, great gm
HomoLudens [1k\]: thanks
Smilogo [5k\]: thanks
slinfolo [7k\]: ah ok
WoolyMaCha [4k?\]:  thx   USGO1
ec1 [2d?\]: Wonder if wG10 was the prooblem move for w - could he play wJ11?
WoolyMaCha [4k?\]:  Anymore games for Chen?
ec1 [2d?\]: interesting game to watch
Chee [21k\]: oh man I missed the end
iooyjj: Thx Usgo1
iooyjj: thx USGO1
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